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  Dysfunctamentalism

  by Incognigo Montoya in

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  in reading through many posts over the last few months, i have started to form a viewpoint towards at least some of those witnesses/witness families, who are abusive and overzealous in their thinking.. arguably, many, if not all here, would say all pimi witnesses are overzealous in their thinking, but i sort of disagree with that.

  without revealing too much about myself, my parents who are still in (father long time elder, mother regular pioneer), i consider stable and balanced in their views.

  while i was shunned to a degree, after being disfellowshipped (they didn't go out to dinner or the movies with me or socialize with me publicly or very often privately, they didn't attend my wedding) they still spoke to me on the phone every few months, as i checked in on them and let them know i was doing alright (i moved out of state in my late teens).

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  What is the standard we must use to measure dysfunctional? I'm not being cheeky here. Every family has its quirks, even the most functional. I assume functional goes beyond providing food, clothing and housing for a family. There are emotional needs. In as much as all people have emotional scars, there is always emotional dysfunction on some level. A lack of demonstrable love, an excess of the same, can destroy an ability to function in society. By that measure we don't need WT rules to act as a magnifier of said personal flaws. I agree that WT attracts such instabilities by offering a framework for emotional sterility.
  
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  Jehovah do you witness

  by NewYork44M in

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  i was roaming youtube and found this song:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mvbdagacps.

  the profile: this song is 100% true as i have been a disfellowshipped jehovah witness for almost 25 years now.

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  The rhymes are a bit rough but the point is clear. At times its hard to make out what he says. It could be my hearing. It's crazy to see JW crap become mainstream dissed. Nice.
  
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  Child sexual abuse suspect arrested in T.O.

  by Tahoe in

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  2. friends

  https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/13/child-sexual-abuse-suspect-arrested-t-o/2305199002/ .

  a 69-year-old thousand oaks man facing multiple sexual abuse charges by the ventura county district attorney’s office was arrested last week, authorities said.. steven skyler abbott was arrested dec. 6 after months of investigation into the reported sexual abuse of two thousand oaks girls, according to the ventura county sheriff’s office.

  in november, the ventura county district attorney’s office filed multiple felony sexual abuse charges against abbott, including two counts of continuous sexual abuse, one count of lewd acts upon a child and one count of forcible lewd acts upon a child.. he is also facing multiple felony enhancements and special allegations related to his charges.. the investigation began in september, when the sheriff’s agency received a report of suspected child crimes.. a 16-year-old victim alleged that she was sexually abused by abbott when she was between the ages of 5 and 11, sheriff’s officials said.. sexual assault unit detectives subsequently identified a second, 24-year-old victim who reported that abbott had abused her when she was between the ages of 3 and 7, authorities said.. the sheriff’s agency said the victims and their families had come into contact with abbott through the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses in newbury park.. investigators submitted their findings to prosecutors, who filed felony sexual abuse charges against abbot on nov. 16, officials said.. on nov. 28, an arrest warrant was issued for abbott.. the suspect was eventually arrested at his home on dec. 6 and booked into ventura county jail.

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  Ew!
  
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  Successful Moveout

  by jdash in

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  2. experiences

  so i moved out last friday and it went good.

  at first i was nervous and everything, but i feel as i can be myself now.

  everything is fine.. i appreciate you guys with the help i have received over the past year.

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  Don't panic and don't give up no matter how hard it may get at times. The key is to keep communication open with your landlord so you can keep them appraised of you situation. I'm not saying you won't have the rent, but there may come a time due to sickness or layoff or whatever. Just keep communication open no matter what. Good for you. Keep looking forward.
  
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  When 2 want to visit.

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some of the local witnesses have been by, periodically, to check on us and say that they miss us.

  i consider that a decent thing to do since they figure that we're going to die any day now from the loving god.

  some have been elders, who have to always stay distant so that they don't somehow get contaminated by being too nice to us.

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  I have one word that will stop them, Ebola.
  
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  Lord, to whom shall we go?

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. friends

  once someone figures out that the watchtower is not a safe place for their family, they come face to face with the question of where they should be.

  i don't have the answer for that, but can speak to my personal experience over the past 20 years.. i ended up taking a 12 year break from organized religion, and then read an article about a new group that had formed locally called aldea spiritual community.

  after a few visits, i realized that i had found a home among others who were fed up with organized religion.

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  The witnesses said we have a "Spiritual need" that must be met. Those kinds of buzzwords become adopted as a "Truth" by believers. The same as "The Truth". We were indoctrinated that God has a "truth" we must find. A "true" religion etc. are watchwords for the fraudulent bodies of believers. Out of a measure of caution, many of us hesitate to see any group, including one that is organized, yet denies it is organized, as worthy of our time. It seems you have gotten past that. I have not. My knee jerk reaction is to say run away. Keep your eyes opened and your checkbook/debit card close to you vest my friend. Just being an ex JW here.
  
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  2 mothers---2 sons.

  by stan livedeath in

  1. watchtower
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  first mother...a friend of mine--in her 60's.. her son--is 42. he is less than useless.

  his last long term relationship ended 3 years ago when his wife to be called off the wedding and kicked him out of her house.

  he went back to live with his mummy--rent free.

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  Another example of the mirror world that JW's inhabit. They just can't see it my friend. In the second example it is the mother that is the addict. She's addicted to the drugs the GB is giving her, false hope and an overdose of self righteousness.
  
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  Let's Talk About Writing

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  let's talk about writing.

  for me, writing is sort of like jazz.. writing is "thinking inside the moment".

  improvising and surprising an audience--is good jazz.. have you ever heard "bad" jazz?ha ha ha--of course you have!

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  I agree that the story and characters have their own life and it is discovery to write. This unfortunately doens't make it good in and of itself. Often it can lead to self indulgence. A good writer has at least some sense of his reader, and the ability to self edit to a degree, while writing. Unlike jazz, it is the rewriting where the magic comes together.
  

  My main reason for not liking Jazz is that it seems self centered. Clearly the performer is enthralled with being a virtuoso and this leads to self indulgence, the artist assumes it is great because it keeps going. Similarly some writers confuse verbiage with quality. Thanks for a stimulating thread.
  
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  Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

  by SuperGirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

  i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

  the religion has become a nut house.

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  Congrats! You truly are a Super girl!
  
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  First time here - My Story (Spousal Abuse)

  by Centaurus A in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone, this is my first time here and only in the last 2 weeks have my eyes been opened.

  still trying to take in all this new info.

  anyways here is my very condensed story:.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I seldom read long posts about a person's horror story. Your story was compelling and informative. When that fervor takes hold its a real cancer. So pleased your boys found a father who really cares for their future. Keep up the education that has benefited you so much. I also look forward to seeing your growth away from the Watchtower.